Alrighty then

So. Excellent meeting on Saturday; Also a good meeting tonight with Andrew and Jon, planning some locations.

If we can, I'd like to meet at 3:30 pm on not this but next Saturday, July 10th, for anyone who is around to begin the filming. I'll have the storyboards ready, so we can know who is in what scenes. Well, most of the storyboards. I would certainly welcome Kristen and Melanie to the project, if they want to help. We could do some fun stuff with the Queen of BenHeim.
So, if any of you can come on Saturday to the Browning Center, do. Also: Jon, Jason, Andrew... We Need Cameras. Anyone who can, bring one, and we'll work out which to use.
If this is completely impracticable for any of you, let me know and I'll work with it. But it looks pretty good for that Saturday.

Our Working Title is "Jinglesþula II: George Lucas Stole Our Title, or Jingles the Pirate goes Quantity Surveying." And an outline of the plot has formed, which I'll post sometime soon.

Minutes from the Meeting of the Minds

Here's just a quick visual rundown of the most important parts of the meeting:















And yes, that is Andrew Sirkis.

THE MEETING IS AT NOON

See "Okay, ve vork vid it" for directions to the park, and other helpful hints.
THE MEETING IS AT NOON.
THE MEETING IS AT NOON.
THE MEETING IS AT NOON.
Get it? Got it. Good.

I'm Baaack (Mwaaaahhha, hahahahahahaha)

Okay, great work all. I love everyting. I especially like "Jinglesthula Episode II: George Lucas Stole Our Title (or Jingles the Pirate Goes Quantity Surveying). After mulling it over a great deal, I have tentatively decided to take on the role of Dennis. I have some feindish ideas for the character that would be great, but plot-i-ness still illudes me. Anyhow, I plan to be at the meeting on the Day of Sat. I don't really have much else to say.....yes I do. I do not know about labs at the U, even if I did, I couldn't use them yet, as I haven't had classes. If anyone has a beautiful Mac computer and iMovie at their abode, it would make things much easier. Does iMovie work on PC? Okay, now I'm done. No I'm not. I also remembered to mention to Jarrett not to worry about too much music. I would like to use my expansive soundtrack collection as the basis for the score, but that is another issue. We will discuss it at the meeting. I shall bring forth my collection to get the juices flowing concerning this subject.

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Thank you Jon for your summary and your new ideas. Good stuff. Now I've got something: The solution (and we'll discuss it, but it seems good) both for some in-the-past action scenes and maybe love scenes.
Behold:
We use flashback footage from "Secondhand Lions". I mean, it's perfect. Swords, duels, torture, passion, the French Foreign Legion, what have you.

See you all on saturday!

I have an Excellent Idea! Let's change the subject!

-The March Hare from Alice in Wonderland

Ok, so here's a summary of what's up so far. Categorized. A few more ideas I've added. Everybody's admin, I think, so feel free to edit this post and just add things right into the categories, or continue to make separate posts - either way, really.

Here goes.

Plottish ideas*****************************************
send in the clones: the clones get sent to a destination
Jingles ends up trapped in the past and must be rescued
Jingles travels back in time to prevent something... and fails
Flashbacks
Desert shots from Lawrence/ Jon crawling through sandbox
Shakespear soliloquy
Much Ado About King Ben's guard
Matt singing
Errol Flynn movie clips
Scottish drinking music/ drunken singing
A wee prologue
Jingles' mentor
Revelation of why Jingles is called Jingles the Pirate
Epic group battle scene
King Ben plays chess with his clone
Motif music for each character
Father Benedict drinks his clone under the table
We discover Father Benedict has actually been chugging turpentine or has been dilusional about the effects of the drink, and it has been water all along or something - kind of like a placebo drink (sugar water)
Everyone duels with his/her clone
Clone King takes over and the Real King must be rescued
The clones must be destroyed or captured and set to work making doilies or something
Jingles has 3 or 4 clones
Jingles is reluctant to answer the summons this time and it takes an attack from his clone(s) to convince him
A music video of the cast, in costume, playing some originally composed music - this can be during or after the end credits or something
Outtakes/bloopers during ending credits (of course, many bloopers will doubtless be shown during the main film as well, but this could be extra footage not seen there)
An Entr'act or Intermission or whateverit's called - perhaps short - perhaps egregiously long
A Dance something like in the Mask of Zorro or A Knight's Tale - it can be the setting for some quiet discussion between the main characters and maybe the Dance is interrupted by a battle or there is intrigue going on in other rooms than the main dance hall - like in The Scarlett Pimpernell - Dances are good settings for mystery and in-treeg

Characters***********************************************
Father Benedict
King Ben
The Thief
Bagpipe Band
Horatio "Baby-Face" Nelson
Monsieur Ballon
Don D'estanla Biblioteka
Galahad Threepwood
Musicians
Jingles the Pirate
A Messenger
Mert Burdock
The Stunt Double
Hot Dog Recipients
Gregorio Rastafar (past/present) (pirate/prophet)
Thusly the Hamster
Dennis the cloner
Dennis' teddy bear
The Clones (eye and liver sensitive) identified by sunglasses
The Love Interest (maybe named Broom-Hilda, or Sweetums, or The Kid, or Bucket, or something odd like that - or just normal, like Jane, or Jill, or Sally, or Samantha or something)
Mert Burdock's apprentice (split personality?)
cameos by people - maybe even us as ourselves, just to make things weird
A small munchkin-like race of beady eyed people - Cory, can we borrow your monkey mask for this one?

Objects/props***********************************************************
Sea Quail - the timetravel enabling artifact
Father Benedicts flask (glass, decanter, whatever)
Balloon(s)
pennies
goldfish
PVC pipe swords
garbage can lid shields
capes
hats
sunglasses
chess set

Music for soundtrack*************************************************
Bela Flek
Gershwin
Grainger
Bluebird or other big band
John Williams
Disco (I think this is a definite must)
Music (and/or sound clips of dialogue, sounds, etc.) from H*R

Okay, ve vork vid it

I have my work schedule for this next week, courtesy of the Deseret Book company. So on Saturday, I begin work at 3 pm. So what I say is this: The meeting will go forward; We will meet at Beus Park (y'all know where that is? it's kind of next to the Dee Events Parking Lot) at 11:30-12:00. Downbeat is at 12:04 -- oh wait that's band. But it applies. Lunch will be served at 1 pm or a little after (I'll probably start cooking at 1), so Ben will not miss it. I will, as I said, be responsible for lunch, but if anybody wants to help, I would be very happy to allow that. Father Benedict is, I think, fixing to be fixing hotdogs for everyone. Any suggestions or donations are very welcome.

This is still a meeting, so it will be orderly; but I don't like boring meetings in ugly rooms with no food. Thus my Modus Operandi.
If you can have an idea or two written down (or blogged) bring it with you; I'll print up the blog to date and we'll work with that.
Brush up on Parliamentary Procedure.
The objective is to have a working title and outline (and maybe some storyboards) of our Great Enterprise, Jinglesþula II.

So, I will se you all on the 26th at 11:30.
Please let me know in the next couple of days whether or not you will be attending, so I can ration my cash appropriately.

some thoughts to work with:

Jinglesþula Episode II: the Sea Quail
or Jingles the Pirate goes Quantity surveying

Jinglesþula Episode II: A little bit longer and a little bit worse

Jinglesþula Episode II: Attack of the Phantom Clones
or Jingles the Pirate goes Quantity Surveying

Jinglesþula Episode II: George Lucas Stole our Title

Jinglesþula II: Adventures in Quantity Surveying

Jinglesþula II: Return of the Jingles

JÞII (remember ID4?)

Jinglesþula II: Jingles the Pirate and the quest for the Sea Quail

that'll do for today.

It is no longer!!!

Pending that is. The invite anyways. So I'm definetly down for the whole lunch thing, at least I'm pretty sure (I don't plan that far ahead during the summer).

As King, I so by declare:

Like I said in the comment, King Ben cannot attend the 10am Sat 26 conference session. If'n it were a couple hours later, I'd be go, but not that early. I've got to make some rulings on some poor peasants complaints from 9-1. However, my one and only suggestion so far has been the Sea Quail train of thought. Also, Andrew returns from Outoftown on the 21st and is planning a one on one session with Jarrett at next Wednesday's OCB rehearsal. That should be a good kick off point because Andrew will read the entire blog up to that point before that rehearsal. He'll be all full of ideas and vetos, I'm sure. The only reason I know this is because he called from sunny California (the K State) and we mulled over this subject. So let it be written, so let if be done.

Welcome All!

En Avant the Discussion Forum. Let's say the 26th in the morning for now; I will arrange my Deseret Bookie-ing (betting on who'll speak and what they'll speak on in Conference) For that. If everybody can do another time more readily, post and inform me. But we'll say for now (and it's pretty sure) Saturday the 26th. If you can't come, send a representative or communicate your ideas via this blog. Oh, I guess Andrew's out of town, so we'll keep open-minded. But no reason to delay. Saturday the 26th, say 10am, and for now let's also just call it at the Browning Center - they have a nice conference room.

I think maybe we should make a shakespeare joke or two. Just a character rambling off on a soliloquy. Or we could do the scene with the prince's guard from Much Ado About Nothing with the guard of King Ben. I dunno.

Matt, I liked your singing at the end of Tricia Gerrard's video. It might be the only part I liked.

Okay, I think I've worked out how to do a love interest in our movie. We rent an old Errol Flynn Pirate Movie (there are several, whose titles don't come readily to mind) and take the scenes from that. We'll just have to label the characters. Even Robin Hood would work.

Special welcome to our new members. May the force be with you.

Yo

Order's up. Invites to Chore and Ricky are pending.

The discussion luncheon sounds like a good idea. Well, any lunch sounds good since I haven't eaten breaker yet.

Mine? Mine? Mine? Mine? Mine? Mine? Mine?

Yours?

I like the Sea Quail. Let's not worry about the title. Ben, as an author, you should know that the title comes later. In this case, I think it will come last. But I like the Sea Quail as a method of time travel. We could search for it, even. Does anybody have a funny-looking Stuffed Bird? I'll look through my supply, but please let me know.

MY PEOPLE:
I, as King of the Jinglesþula II blog, and by the authority vested in me by all-y'all, hereby declare:

So the word from Mark Maxson is, not likely with the Lab during the Summer. Any Ideas for alternate solutions would be good; However, in the Fall, I may work in the DPA lab. And he's bringing in a Hot new piece of software(P.O.S. stands for many things), A step up from I-movie even.

Andrew:
Does the U of U have a computer Lab for the performing arts? Is it open during the summer?

But moving right along. I think we ought to have a discussion group (all those of us involved, from king to lowest peasant) As to this. Perhaps we could all gather together some fine Saturday Morning at Weber or a nearby park. My schedule is open on the 26th; or the 3rd of July, if anybody's in town.

Say, 9 or 10 am. And I'd be responsible for Lunch for all in attendance.

Let me know. Check back often for Updates.
Also -- Diego, Jessica, Let's hear from you. I value you input, positive and critical.

Also, Jon invite 'Chore' please. I don't have his Email, so it's up to you.

Ideas

Ok, so, thanks for the invite and here is my one idea: Sea Quail. That is as in sequel. The sequel to Jinglesthula could be called Jinglesthula: Sea Quail. ?? Maybe? Anyway, that was my little bit of something. Then maybe the Sea Quail could be the artifact that allows time travel. I don't know. I've usually found that when I have cool ideas like this in group projects, nobody else ever likes it and it's usually passed over and forgotten. So, if you wanna just forget this way cool idea, ask Jon or Jarrett to erase my post. Later, yo.

=) or thereabouts

Or "Thera-Band"
What does 'Flot Gjort' mean?
And yes, it's Danish.

Flot gjort

I like the fact, Jarrett, that you've set the date/time stamp on this blog to Icelandic... or is it Danish? Iceland is, after all, to Denmark as Puerto Rico is to Freecountry, USA.

As far as ideas for the film go, I have this simply:

All the ideas that have been set forth herein are wonderful. I think that we will have no problem sewing them together into the fabric of the next epic-mini (or is it mini-epic... demi-epic... epi-demic?) I think that the main premise of the film should be decided on to give us a framework. Then we can put the pieces of the puzzle into place that are floating around. With a loose plot outline or summary I think it will be easier to tie things together and start coming up with something like a script (although I much enjoyed the fact that the lines themselves were made up on the spot in Part I).

Well, that's it. Time to take some German Pancakes out of the oven befor they burn past recognition or digestability.

Peace

Þusly

So -- at some point, the Prophet Rastafar should be telling a group of people the story of Thusly, the Hamster. Perhaps that's how we meet him. And when Jingles (or anyone else, for that matter) asks him for advice, he'll say, "Well, you remember the story of Thusly the Hamster:" and continue w/advice, and draw a different conclusion from it every time. Or perhaps we can have him at a council scene. Or have King Ben go to him for advice.

Ev Avant JÞ II!

Oh, yes indeed. You're very right about the clone theme. Which reminds me of something: My father is a geneticist, and works with cloning and all sorts of weird stuff that even I don't understand. One day he was talking to a coworker about the Episode II and suddenly, they both sang, "Send in the Clones..."

"The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy.

That applies to the story, not to JÞ.
Andrew, I've made you admin too, so you can invite other people to join the blog. Please do.
Staff for the original was as follows(in order of appearance):

Jarrett as Father Benedict
Ben as King Ben of Benheim
Tiffany as The Thief
Cory, Diego, and Jarrett as the Bagpipe Band
Jon, Ben, and Jarrett as Members of the council:

Horatio "Baby-Face" Nelson
Monsieur Ballon
Don D'Estanla Biblioteca
Galahad Threepwood (as I recall)

Ben and Jarrett as Musicians in the Temple of Vishnu
Jon as Jingles The Pirate
Ricky as A Messenger
Jarrett as The Villain, Mert Burdock
Ricky as The Villain's Stunt Double
Jason, Kristin, and Cory as HotDog Recipients

Jessica did much of the first day's filming.

Councillor names, and most character names are puns and obscure references, so Ideas for those are always welcome. Much of the Joy I take in the JÞ project is the jokes I think no one will get.

And:
I can play Gregorio Rastafar. He is my alter ego, after all. I just need to freshen up my Prophet outfit, and get a new fake beard (about $5). Or we could find a volunteer - maybe Matt Kinney would help us, he had a religion for awhile. Jon or Andrew, Invite him to this blog. Him and Ricky. Maybe he could be Rastafar in the Past, then get a big beard in the present. Or as a Birthday Present (I joke).

That's all for today.

Yuppers, Part II

I highly agree on all counts Jarrett. The leit motif is a wonderful sugestion and one which shall definantly be used.

How about we "send" the clones somewhere for some idiotic reason and play the melody to "Send in the Clowns", but it will be "Send in the Clones". Just a stupid idea which could also be used in some capacity perhaps.

I love the idea of Gregorio Rastafar. Hillarious! Who could play the part though.....?

How about the time travel is used as you say to stop the clones, but Jingles can't quite do it right and the clones come about anyway, but Jingles ends up trapped in the past and someone must save him. Maybe we could use footage from part one for stuff from the past, but shoot new scenes to splice into it. About how the time travel works.....I haven't thought about it yet. Perhaps we could steal some footage from Back to the Future.

I think it would be appropriate to write a list of all the characters and the names of those who have sold their souls to us to play them, er, I mean those who are definantly playing said characters, just to keep it straight for all involved.

So rather than flashbacks, what if we used the whole time travel gag that way. Instead of it being a "flashback" it would just be time travel?

I still love the idea of stealing some sweeping desert shots from Lawrence of Arabia, then cutting to Jon crawling through a sandbox.
**you know what's so cool? I can edit your posts whenever I feel like it, but I won't unless they're unfit to print. - Jarrett **
BTW, I'll be on vacation until the 21, so I'll try to come up with something while I'm gone. Thats it for now.

Yuppers

Thems sounds like some good ideas. I haven't actually put much thought to it since I've been so busy with my summertime slacking. But I'll try to come up with some idears for the flick.

More later.

Okey-Dokey

Well, well, well. Are any of you going to post yet?
Jon, I've made you admin, so you can invite anybody you have email addresses for. Ha ha ha.
And Andrew: You're right about George Lucas' Title-ness. So, as I said, we discuss title later on. My Scots drunk is better than my ordinary drunk by a long shot. Mostly 'coz I know scots drinking music.

Time Travel -- how do we do it? Why do we do it?

I agree, Andrew, that we should have a wee prologue.
And definitely, every character has a different reason for why they call him "the Pirate."

I think we could meet Jingles' mentor in flashback shots, and mebbe a later one, too. Gregorio Rastafar, the Pirate. Later the Prophet Rastafar. Only with him, no one knows why he's called the prophet.

Perhaps Gregorio can reveal why Jingles is called the Pirate. And everyone will go, ahh...
And he will leave.
And somebody says, "So why do you suppose they call him the Prophet?"

We definitely need to do the
Group-of-characters-break-up-one-by-one-into-individual-fight-scenes-and-we-keep-cutting-back-and-forth thing.
And King Ben will play chess with his clone?
Checkmate. *Pow* right in the kisser.

When a clone dies, we cut so that a white sheet falls to floor. Special Effects, you know. I'll have to show you what I mean.

Maybe the clones, you know, there are too many, so we send one character back in time to stop them before they begin. Jingles could miss and end up too far back when Benheim was a Great Desert. And he could be right when Dennis is making the clones, and be too late. And Jingles could then go back, say when Dennis is a little boy, and change a critical flashback scene with a teddy bear or something.

These are just thoughts.
We should, if we can, use leit-motif in the music -- certain stuff for each character...Or, a certain style. Mebbe w/father benedict, we begin w/gregorian chant and scene-by-scene switch to Scots Music.

Hello, Hello, Hello!

And here it is, folks:
The Jinglesþula Episode II discussion and announcement blog.
This is not "Jarrett's Blog." Jarrett doesn't have a blog. And isn't likely to. Being participant in two others is quite sufficient.
Anyhow, to the main subject: Jinglesþula, Episode II.

When it becomes possible, I will probably link the original Jinglesþula up here (in a somewhat comprest format).

So, the Ideas so far:
We have clones. They are phantom. Maybe.

Maybe Every Character has a clone. Now, clones are identifiable by the not-quite-sunglasses (mine) which they wear. Perhaps they have sensitive eyes (and livers).

Each character that has a clone will have a duel scene with them.

Father Benedict will, as the film goes on, become steadily more drunk and more Scottish. And yes, Andrew, he will be more of a wino. Or a Whiskey-O (that'd be a popular cereal!). He will not be away from some apparently alcoholic beverage(in a bottle)--ever. And will drink his clone under the table.

"What is it?" "It's Green." (a Montgomery Scott reference)

Maybe the clone King usurps the real King and starts oppressing the kingdom, or acting weird. And so we can rescue the king as well as kill the clones.

Jingles will be sent for, meditating/doing yoga like he was. He may be slightly more recalcitrant to assist. Maybe he refuses, gets attacked by one of his clones, and then decides to go. Maybe he has three or four clones.

Jon, can you stop shaving? For my sake? or not, whatever. But it'd be cool if you had a moustache or beard or heavy stubble. And you must have the hat this time.

Maybe we meet Jingles' Guru.

Alright, that'll do for today. Now let's hear from the rest of you.